Can you use analog sync with another device that isn't a DAW? like if I route the click from a hardware piece (mpc, rc505, sp404 etc.) to the analog click will it work just as well?
Thanks,
will Analog Sync work with external hardware?
Re: will Analog Sync work with external hardware?
Hi 
As long as the Midronome receives what it is supposed to, then yes it will work with anything.
But notice that for Audio Sync you cannot simply send a click, you need to send a special sync audio file generated by the Sync File Generator tool. But if your MPC can play the file, then yes it will sync the same way it does to a DAW. See the Audio Sync section of the manual.
As for syncing to simpler signals like a metronome, you can play around with the PAd and P.A.d. modes of the Midronome's input. These modes expect regular drum pad hits which you can "simulate" by sending an audio click into the input. Notice that this mode is not particularly precise, it was more designed for a drummer to tap the tempo than for syncing. But other people have tried it and made it work
Last possibility is if this gets implemented: viewtopic.php?t=113
Cheers
Simon
As long as the Midronome receives what it is supposed to, then yes it will work with anything.
But notice that for Audio Sync you cannot simply send a click, you need to send a special sync audio file generated by the Sync File Generator tool. But if your MPC can play the file, then yes it will sync the same way it does to a DAW. See the Audio Sync section of the manual.
As for syncing to simpler signals like a metronome, you can play around with the PAd and P.A.d. modes of the Midronome's input. These modes expect regular drum pad hits which you can "simulate" by sending an audio click into the input. Notice that this mode is not particularly precise, it was more designed for a drummer to tap the tempo than for syncing. But other people have tried it and made it work
Last possibility is if this gets implemented: viewtopic.php?t=113
Cheers
Simon
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theonlyion
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Re: will Analog Sync work with external hardware?
Thanks Simon,
follow up question. How about if you use a device to be the master clock to the DAW? and then audio sync from the daw to midronome which then lead the clock for other devices? Addtionally, any sense of how it interacts when using Ableton Link?
follow up question. How about if you use a device to be the master clock to the DAW? and then audio sync from the daw to midronome which then lead the clock for other devices? Addtionally, any sense of how it interacts when using Ableton Link?
Re: will Analog Sync work with external hardware?
There is no Ableton Link, at least not for now.
As for being a master to the DAW, you can do this if your DAW can follow MIDI Clock (afaik: Ableton, Bitwig and Reason do). This syncing method is much easier to set up but it will not be as precise as Audio Sync. And I would suggest you use either MIDI Clock sent over USB (=Midronome is master), or Audio Sync (=DAW is master), using both at the same time might give very strange results
And in both case the Midronome will be able to send MIDI Clock to your hardware devices, that's the whole point of it
Simon
As for being a master to the DAW, you can do this if your DAW can follow MIDI Clock (afaik: Ableton, Bitwig and Reason do). This syncing method is much easier to set up but it will not be as precise as Audio Sync. And I would suggest you use either MIDI Clock sent over USB (=Midronome is master), or Audio Sync (=DAW is master), using both at the same time might give very strange results
And in both case the Midronome will be able to send MIDI Clock to your hardware devices, that's the whole point of it
Simon
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theonlyion
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Re: will Analog Sync work with external hardware?
I would love to start any/every song with either a single loop played live or a sampl that sets the tempo and then utilizes the midronome's sync qualities to the fullest, ideally without the need for IEMS for a click to follow.
for example: There's a song that has a predetermined bpm from a collected sample, and then the next song may start with my looping the guitar and building off that. If I wanted to hold onto that structure, but also spontaneity while also being utilizing the midronome to its best ability to sync everything.
IS DAW SYNC likely the best solution and using a DAW Looper to set the tempo? is it possible to put multiple sync files into ableton clips as different tempos and use the internal ableton looper to set tempos on songs that start live?
Thanks for all the work you've done!
for example: There's a song that has a predetermined bpm from a collected sample, and then the next song may start with my looping the guitar and building off that. If I wanted to hold onto that structure, but also spontaneity while also being utilizing the midronome to its best ability to sync everything.
IS DAW SYNC likely the best solution and using a DAW Looper to set the tempo? is it possible to put multiple sync files into ableton clips as different tempos and use the internal ableton looper to set tempos on songs that start live?
Thanks for all the work you've done!
Re: will Analog Sync work with external hardware?
Sounds like you should create a new topic or ask on the Facebook group for a question like that - then you might get answers from the community as well
I am not sure I follow 100%, but what I can say is:
I am not sure I follow 100%, but what I can say is:
- With Audio Sync (DAW Sync) you will be able to loop part of your song at the beginning, then if you keep the DAW transport playing and stop the looping the song will stay in sync and follow the rest of the DAW session (if say you have tempo changes for example). BUT right now it's not possible - you need to wait for the coming version of the Sync File Generator tool (next week I hope)
- Yes you can put multiple sync files with different tempos in one session, then you can use Ableton's looper to launch them individually. But again you will have to wait for the coming version of the Sync File Gen tool.